25 November 1971
Supreme Court
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R. B. BANSILAL ABIRCHAND MILIS CO. LTD. Vs LABOUR COURT NAGPUR & ORS.

Case number: Appeal (civil) 2136 of 1966


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PETITIONER: R.   B. BANSILAL ABIRCHAND MILIS CO.  LTD.

       Vs.

RESPONDENT: LABOUR COURT NAGPUR & ORS.

DATE OF JUDGMENT25/11/1971

BENCH: MITTER, G.K. BENCH: MITTER, G.K. SIKRI, S.M. (CJ) SHELAT, J.M. DUA, I.D.

CITATION:  1972 AIR  451            1972 SCR  (2) 580  1971 SCC  (2) 154  CITATOR INFO :  E          1972 SC1579  (4,6)  R          1978 SC 275  (5)  D          1988 SC1618  (7)

ACT: Industrial  Disputes Act-S. 33C(2)-Whether Labour Court  has jurisdiction   to   entertain   application   for    lay-off compensation under s. 33C(2).

HEADNOTE: A  textile mill in Madhya Pradesh employed about a  thousand workers.  The mill was owned by a firm, the appellant in the Second  Appeal.   A  fire  broke  out  in  the  Mill   doing appreciable  damage to some of the machines.  From a  letter of  the Insurance company, the extent of the damage  caused, was  ascertained to be about Rs. 37,420/-.  In terms of  the last  notice  given  by  the employers  the  mills  did  not commence  work but instead, the management  transferred  the mills  to  the company which had been  incorporated  on  8th December 1959.  From the facts it was clear, that the damage to  the  machinery was insignificant as  against  the  total assets  transferred  to the company and the damage  was  not such that it was not possible to run the mills at all. Respondents  2 to 346 in the Second Appeal applied under  s. 33C(2)  of the Industrial Disputes Act to the  Labour  Court claiming  lay-off compensation for the period they  remained idle.   The Labour Court held that there had been a  lay-off within the meaning of s. 2(K-KK) of Industrial Disputes  Act and  except ’badli’ workers the employees were  entitled  to compensation  for  the  full  period  of  18  months.    The appellants in both the appeals, filed writ petitions  before the  High Court for quashing the order of the  Labour  Court and  the  High Court raised several  issues  and  ultimately remanded the matters back to the Labour Court for  recording fresh  evidence  as  to  whether  the  applicants  presented themselves  for work at the appointed time at least  once  a day within the meaning of S. 25E(ii).  On the application of the  appellants  the High Court granted  certificates  under Art.  133 (1) (a) of the Constitution.  The point  urged  by the appellants was that if a claim is made on the basis of a

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lay off and the employer contends that there was no lay  off but  closure  it is open to a labour court to  entertain  an application under s. 33C(2).  It is more so when the dispute was  not between a solitary workman on the one hand and  the employer  on  the other but a whole body of  workmen  ranged against   their  employer  who  was  faced   with   numerous applications  before  the labour court  for  computation  of benefit in terms of money. Dismissing the appeals, HELD : (i) From the facts and circumstances of the Case,  it was  clear that the business of the company was  continuing. They,  in  fact, continued to employ several  employees  and their  notices  say  that some portion of  the  mills  would continue to work.  The Labour Court’s jurisdiction could not be ousted by a mere plea denying the workmen’s claim to  the computation of benefit in terms of money.  The Labour  Court must go into the matter and come to a decision as to whether there  was  really a closure or a lay off.  If it  took  the view that there was a lay-off, it would be acting within its jurisdiction  if  it awarded compensation in  terms  of  the provisions in Ch.  VA.  The High Court is right in upholding the decision of the Court. [591 E-H] 581 (ii) Section  33C(2)  takes  within the  purview,  rases  of workmen  who  claim  that the benefits to  which  they  were entitled  should be computed in terms of money, even  though the  right to the benefit on which their claim is based,  is disputed  by  their employers.  In other words,  the  Labour Court  may enquire into all such acts or disputes which  are incidental to the main dispute, [588 C-D] (iii)     Section   25C   provides  for   the   measure   of compensation  to be awarded in cases of lay off of  workers. The  claim to compensation of every workman who is laid  off is  one  which arises under the statute itself and  s.  25C, provides  for a benefit to the workman which is  capable  of being  computed  in terms of money under s. 33C(2),  of  the Act.   The scheme of the Act is that an  individual  workman can approach a labour court for computation of  compensation in terms of s. 25C of the Act and he is not concerned to see whether other co-workers will adopt the same course or  not. The  fact that a number of workers make claims of  identical nature cannot make any difference to the individual  workman who prefers the claim, The mere fact that a large number  of persons  makes  a  claim, of the  same  nature  against  the employer does not change the nature of the dispute so as  to take  it out of the pale of s. 7 of the Act and  render  the dispute  one which can only be dealt with by  an  industrial tribunal. [588 E-H] Central  Bank of India Ltd. v. P. S. Rajagopalan,  [1964]  3 S.C.R. 140, followed., Mining  Engineer  v. Rameshwar, [1968] 1  S.C.R.  140,  U.P. Electric  Supply Co. v. R. K. Shukla, [1970] 1  S.C.R.  507, Ramkrishna  Ramnath v. Presiding Officer, Nagpur,  [1970]  2 L.L.J.  306 and Sawatram Mills v. Baliram, [1966]  1  S.C.R. 764, referred to and distinguished.

JUDGMENT: CIVIL  APPELLATE JURISDICTION: Civil Appeals Nos.  2136  and 2295 of 1966. Appeals  from the judgment and order dated February 2,  1965 of  the  Bombay High Court, Nagpur Bench  in  Special  Civil Applications Nos. 246 of 1964 and 84 of 1963 respectively. G.   B. Pai, P. C. Bhartari, J. B.  Dadachanji, 0. C. Mathur

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and Ravinder Narain, for the appellant (in C.A. No. 2136  of 1966). S.   V.  Gupte, C. N. Nagle and A. G. Ratnaparkhi,  for  the appellant (in C.A. No. 2295 of 1966).  M.  C. Bhandare, F. P. Sathe, Praveen Pareek, Vineet  Kumar and  Indira Jai Singh, for respondents Nos. 131 to 142,  144 to 478, 480 to 488, 490 and 492 (in C.A. No. 2136 of 1966). The Judgment of the Court was delivered by Mitter,  J. The main question in these two appeals by  certi ficate  is,  whether the Labour Court  bad  jurisdiction  to entertain the application for lay-off compensation under  s. 33-C(2)  of the Industrial Disputes Act.  The  appellant  in the first appeal is a 582 limited  company  which is now under liquidation  while  the appellant   in  the  second  is  a  partnership  firm,   the respondents  in the two appeals being the Labour  Court  and different groups of workmen. The facts are as follows.  In Hinganghat there was a textile mill  known as R. B. Bansilal Abirchand Mills which used  to employ about 1000 men.  The mill was owned by the firm,  the appellant  in  the Second appeal.  A fire broke out  in  the mill  on March 27, 1959 doing appreciable damage to some  of the  machines.   The employers put up a notice  under  their Standing  Order No. 19 on March 28, 1959 to the effect  that the  fire  of the previous night had caused heavy  loss  and extensive  damage  to the departments rendering  the  mill’s working   impracticable   until   necessary   repairs    and adjustments were carried out.  The employees were however to note  that  the  folding  and  workshop  departments   would continue to work as usual and notice of resumption of mill’s working  would  be  posted after  necessary  adjustment  and repairs  were  carried out.  This was followed by  a  second notice  issued on April 2, 1959 to the effect that the  pre- liminary  survey  of the fire have in conjunction  with  the insurance  companies had shown that over 60 per cent of  the machines   in  the  carding.  fly  frame  and   Ring   frame departments had been damaged and that the damage to the bulk of these machines was such that they might require  complete replacement.    It  was  further  announced  that   in   the circumstances  the  Management  had no  alternative  but  to declare  stoppage of work of all the productive  departments of the mills. Although  it is not possible to be precise as to the  extent of  the damage caused, a fair idea of it can be had  from  a letter of Hukumchand Insurance Company Ltd. dated August 28, 1959  stating  that  the loss to  buildings,  machinery  and accessories  had  been  determined at Rs.  22,624/-  by  the surveyors.    It  appears  that  on  27th  April  1960   the representatives of the insurance companies had agreed to re- assessment   increasing  the  figure  for  repairs  to   Rs. 37,420/-. The  third notice put up by the firm on April 29, 1960  gave no indication of the date of completion of the repairs.   On September 13, 1960 the firm notified that the departments of the mills which had remained unproductive since 28th  March, 1959  were  expected to commence working on  or  about  30th September, 1960. The firm did not however work the mills in terms of the last notice  but  transferred the same to the company  which  had been  incorporated on 8th December, 1959.  It  appears  that the consideration for the transfer was Rs. 34,75,000/-  made up of  583 Rs. 11,50,000/- being the value of the immovable  properties

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and  Rs. 23,25,000/- being the value of movable  properties. Compared  to the second figure, the damage to the  machinery as assessed by the insurance companies is insignificant. The  first  notice of 28th March, 1959 brings out  the  fact that  the work in the mill as a whole was not. brought to  a stand  still  and that it was to continue as  usual  in  the folding  and workshop departments.  According to the  second notice,  the preliminary survey had shown that over  60  per cent  of  the machines in only  three  departments,  namely, carding, fly frame and ring frame, had been damaged and that complete   replacement  of  some  of  the  above  might   be necessary.   The notices do )not make out the case that  the damage was such that it was not possible to run the mills it all. Towards  the end of 1961 and the be-inning of 1962,  respon- dents  2 to 346 in Civil Appeal No. 2295 of  1966  presented applications under s. 33-C(2) of the Industrial Disputes Act to the Labour Court at Nagpur claiming to have been laid-off from   28th  March  1959  to  30th  September,  1960.    The appellants  in the second appeal filed a  written  statement before  the  Labour  Court contending inter  alia  that  the Labour  Court had no jurisdiction under s. 33-C(2) and  that the  parties  had to work out their rights within  the  four corners of the State Act i.e. the C.P. and Berar  Industrial Disputes   Settlement  Act,  1947.   By  order  dated   30th November, 1962 the preliminary objection as to  jurisdiction of the employers was rejected by the Labour Court.  On this, the  appellants preferred an application under Art.  226  of the Constitution of India before, the Bombay High Court.  By a  common  judgment rendered on 25th August, 1962  the  High Court  rejected the contentions of the appellants  that  the claim under the Industrial Disputes Act was not maintainable because  of the operation of the State Act and further  held that  the  Labour Court was competent to adjudicate  on  the merits  of the claim of the workers even where the  employer disputed  not  only the jurisdiction of the said  court  but also disputed that there was any lay-off as claimed and that the  applicants were not workmen within the meaning  of  the Act.   The appellants who were petitioners before the  High, Court did not proceed further in the matter by applying  for a  certificate  that  the case was fit for  appeal  to  this Court.   By order dated November 30, 1962 the  Labour  Court dismissed  as barred by the principles of res  judicata  125 applications  of  some  of the workers  who  had  previously applied to the Labour Court at Bombay and whose applications had been subsequently dismissed by the Labour Judge,  Bombay on  the ground of lack of jurisdiction under s. 33-C of  the Industrial Disputes Act.  The claim dismissed related to the period between March 28, 1959 and May 584 2,  1960.  The Labour Court allowed the claims  relating  to the  period  from  May 3, 1960 to  September  30,  1960  and ordered the issue of certificates of recovery under s.  33-C of the Act. Respondents  2 to 493 in Appeal No. 2136/1966  filed  appli- cations under S. 33-C in the Labour Court at Nagpur claiming lay-off  compensation  for the period 28th  March,  1959  to September  30, 1960.  The Labour Court held by  order  dated February  29, 1964 that there had been a lay-off within  the meaning of s. 2(kkk) of the Industrial Disputes Act and that the  employees  were entitled to compensation for  the  full period  of  18 months but workers who were  "badli"  workers were  not entitled to such compensation.  The appellants  in both  the appeals preferred writ petitions before  the  High Court-of Bombay for quashing the order of the Labour Court.

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The two writ petitions were disposed of by the High Court by a  common  judgment on February 2, 1965.   Before  the  High Court four main points were raised, namely 1.   Whether  having  regard to the  circumstances  and  the established  facts  there  had been  a  lay-off  within  the meaning of the expression in s. 2(kkk) ? 2.   If there had been a lay-off, whether compensation under s.   25-C  read with S. 25-E of the Act was payable  to  the workers,  also  whether  the workers were  not  entitled  to compensation   because  of  non-fulfilment   of   conditions prescribed in S. 25-E ? 3.   Whether badli workers were entitled to lay-oil’ compen- sation? and 4.   Whether  the quantum of compensation would be  governed by the first proviso to S. 25-C or whether s. 25-C(ii) would be applicable entitling the workers to compensation for  the full period of the lay-off i.e. 28-3-59 to 30-9-1960 ? On  the  first question the High Court held that  "by  every indication  and circumstance and by express  declaration  of its  management it was a running industry", meaning  thereby that there was no closure.  On the second question, the High Court  held  that the Labour Court  should  have  considered whether  the  workmen  had proved that  they  had  presented themselves for work or not in terms of S. 25-E to be able to claim  compensation under s. 25-C, excepting with regard  to three workmen who cave clear evidence on the point.  It also held  that  badli  labour  were  not  entitled  to   lay-off compensation.    It   turned  down   the   contention   that compensation  was  claimable only in terms of  the  Standing Orders  of the Mill.  In the result the High Court  remanded the  585 matters  ’back  to  the Labour  Court  for  recording  fresh evidence  on  behalf of both the parties  on  the  following issue :               Do  the applicants prove that  they  presented               themselves  for work at the appointed time  at               least once a day within the meaning of s.  25-               E(ii)? On  the  applications  of the  appellants,  the  High  Court granted   certificates   under  Art.  133(1)  (a)   of   the Constitution. Before  us learned counsel for the respondents Mr.  Bhandare sought  to resist the main contention of the  appellants  by urging that the decision of the High Court in 1962  operated as res judicata in the present appeals.  He said that it was open  to the appellants to challenge the conclusion  of  the High Court arrived at in 1962 by moving the High Court by an application  for the issue of a certificate of  fitness  for appeal to this Court and in the event of refusal thereof, to ask for special leave of this Court.  In the absence of such applications the determination of the High Court in 1962 had become  final and the question as to jurisdiction could  not be canvassed again.  We do not think it necessary to go into this  question as the matter can be disposed of even on  the basis  that  it  is  open to the  appellants  to  raise  the question  of  jurisdiction before this  Court  although  the point  was not expressly taken in the grounds for  leave  to appeal to this Court before the High Court. The substantial point of Mr. Gupte appearing for one set  of appellants was that it being the case of the employers  that there had been a closure of the mills the dispute could  not be adjudicated upon by a Labour Court and was  entertainable only  by an Industrial Tribunal under the provisions  of  s. 10(1)  (d)  of  the Act.  Mr. Gupte drew  our  attention  to

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various  sections  of the Act in support of  his  contention that  an  "industrial dispute meant primarily a  dispute  or difference  between employers on the one hand and  employees on the other connected with the employment or non-employment or  the  terms of employment etc. of any person.   He  urged that the basic underlying idea was that to be an  industrial dispute  the  dispute  had  to be  one  which  affected  the employee,;  ,-is a class as pitted against their  employers. He  argued that individual workman could only  approach  the Labour Court for lay-off compensation when prima facie there was no question of closure of the industry by the  employers and  drew  our  attention to  the  definition  of  ’lay-off’ ins.2(kkk). According to him in a situation like the present where  the  inability on the part of the  employer  to  give employment  was  not  limited to a handful  of  persons  but extended  to  the  employees  wholesale  arising  out  of  a calamity it could not be said that there had been a  lay-off of  the  employees.   Although the  word  ’closure’  is  not defined in the Act, counsel 586 argued   that  the  expression  would  aptly  describe   the condition prevailing in the mills as a result of the fire on March 27, 1959. We  find ourselves unable to accept Mr. Gupte’s  contention. We  may in this connection refer to the relevant  provisions in the Act.  The authorities under the Act are specified  in different  sections  of Chapter II containing ss.  3  to  9. Under  s.  7  it is open to the  appropriate  Government  by notification in the Official Gazette constitute one or  more Labour  Courts for the adjudication of  industrial  disputes relating to any matters specified in the Second Schedule and for  performing such other functions as may be  assigned  to them under the Act.  Under s. 7-A the appropriate Government may,  by  notification, constitute one  or  more  Industrial Tribunals  for  the  adjudication  of  industrial   disputes relating  to  any matter, whether specified  in  the  Second Schedule or the Third Schedule.  In the Second Schedule  are set  forth certain matters in items 1 to 5 which are  within the  jurisdiction  of a Labour Court and item  6  gives  the Labour  Court jurisdiction to deal with "all  matters  other than  those  specified in the Third  Schedule".   The  Third Schedule contains 11 items of which item 10 reads : "Retrenchment of workmen and closure of establishment". Lay-off  is  not  expressly covered by  either  of  the  two Schedules.   It would therefore be a matter covered  by  the Second  Schedule  tinder  item 6 thereof.   S.  10  (1)  (c) enables  the  appropriate Government when it is  of  opinion that  an industrial dispute exists or is  apprehended  inter alia,  to  refer the dispute or any matter appearing  to  be connected  with, or relevant to, the dispute, if it  relates to  any matter specified in the Second Schedule to a  Labour Court for adjudication.  So far as an Industrial Tribunal is concerned,, the appropriate Government may under s. 10(1)(d) make reference to it not only in cases covered by the Second Schedule  but  also  those included in  the  Third  Schedule except  that when the dispute relates to any matter  in  the Third  Schedule  and is not likely to affect more  than  one hundred  workmen,  the  appropriate Government  may,  if  it thinks  fit, make a reference to a Labour Court  tinder  cl. (c). According to Mr. Gupte, Chapter V-A of the Act introduced in the  year  1953  providing for  claims  being  preferred  by individual workmen to compensation could only be resorted to when the dispute was such as would not call for a  reference under S. 10 (1) (d).  He urged further that it being open to

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the  Central  Government to amend the Second and  the  Third Schedules  by issue of notification under s. 40 of the  Act, so long as the said Schedules stood unaltered, it should  be presumed that the legislature did not intend a Labour  Court to exercise its jurisdiction in cases where there was  587 a  serious  question  of closure  of  an  establishment  put forward by the employers.  All this, argued counsel, went to show  that  if  the essential nature of the  dispute  was  a difference  between the employer on the one hand and a  very large  body of workmen on the other, the employer making  an assertion  involving a matter covered by the Third  Schedule to  the Act, it would not be open to the workmen  to  prefer claims individually under s. 33-C. The  ambit of s. 33-C has been examined by this Court  on  a number  of occasions and reference may usefully be  made  to some  of  the  authorities in this connection  to  find  out whether  the  Labour Court was within  its  jurisdiction  to entertain  the applications which were followed by the  writ petitions to the Bombay High Court. in Central Bank of India Ltd.  v. P. S. Rajagopalan(1) the legislative history of  s. 33-C  was  gone into at length and the  conclusion  of  this Court on the scope thereof was as follows (see p. 150)               "The legislative history to which we have just               referred   clearly   indicates   that   having               provided  broadly  for the  investigation  and               settlement of industrial disputes on the basis               of  collective  bargaining,  the   legislature               recognised  that individual workmen should  be               given   a  speedy  remedy  to  enforce   their               existing individual rights, and so inserted s.               33-A  in the Act in 1950 and added s. 33-C  in               1956.   These  two provisions  illustrate  the               cases in which individual workmen can  enforce               their  rights without having to take  recourse               to  s. 10(1) of the Act, or without having  to               depend  upon  their  Union  to  espouse  their               cause.   Therefore, in construing s.  33-C  we               have   to   bear   in   mind   two    relevant               considerations.   The construction should  not               be so broad as to bring within the scope of s.               33-C  cases which would fall under  s.  10(1).               Where   industrial  disputes   arise   between               employees   acting  collectively   and   their               employers,  they must be adjudicated  upon  in               the  manner  prescribed  by the  Act,  as  for               instance, by reference under s. 10(1).   These               disputes cannot be brought within the  purview               of  s. 33-C.  Similarly, having regard to  the               fact  that  the policy of the  Legislature  in               enacting  s.   33-C  is to  provide  a  speedy               remedy to the individual workmen to enforce or               execute their existing rights, it would not be               reasonable  to exclude from the scope of  this               section  cases  of existing rights  which  are               sought   to  be  implemented   by   individual               workmen." Turning down the contention put forward on behalf of the em- ployers  there that computation under s. 33-C(2) would  only be (1)  [1964] 3 S.C.R. 140. 588 possible  where  the  right of the workman  to  receive  the benefit was not disputed, it was said :               "The claim under S. 33-C(2) clearly postulates

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             that  the determination of the question  about               computing  the benefit in terms of money  may,               in  some  cases,  have to be  preceded  by  an               enquiry  into the existence of the  right  and               such   an  enquiry  might  be  held   to   ’be               incidental to the main determination which has               been  assigned to the Labour Court  by  sub-s.               (2).   As Maxwell has observed " where an  Act               confers jurisdiction, it impliedly also grants               the power of doing all such acts, or employing               such  means, as are essentially  necessary  to               its executions" Accordingly  it  was held that s. 33-C(2) took  "within  the purview  cases  of workmen who claimed that the  benefit  to which  they  are  entitled should be computed  in  terms  of money,  even though the right to the benefit on which  their claim is based is disputed by their employers". Following the above decision, it was held in Mining Engineer v. Rameshwar(1) that sub-s. (2) of s. 33-C was not  confined to  cases arising under an award, settlement or  even  under the  provisions  of Chapter V-A of the Act and  the  benefit provided in the bonus scheme under the Coal Mines  Provident Fund and Bonus Schemes Act, 1948 would be covered by  sub-s. (2). Section 25-C provides for the measures of compensation to be awarded in cases of lay-off of workers.  S. 25-F of the  Act however  provides inter alia that no compensation  shall  be paid  to  a  workman who has been laid-off if  he  does  not present  himself  for  work  at  the  establishment  at  the appointed time during the normal working hours at least once a day. The  claim to compensation of every workman who is  laid-off is  one which arises under the statute itself and  s..  25-C provides  for a benefit to the workman which is  capable  of being  computed  in terms of money under S. 33-C(2)  of  the Act.   The  scheme of the Act being to enable a  workman  to approach a Labour Court (oil computation of the compensation claimed  by  him in terms of s. 25-C of the Act  he  is  not concerned  to see whether other co-workers will or will  not adopt  the same course.  The fact that a number  of  workers make  claims  of identical nature i.e. to  compensation  for lay-off,   arising  out  of  the  same  set  of  facts   and circumstances  cannot make any difference to the  individual workman  who prefers the claim.  The mere fact that a  large number  of persons makes a claim of the same nature  against the employer, does not change (1)  [1968] 1 S.C.R. 140.  589 the nature of the dispute, so as to take it out of the  pale of s. 7 of the Act and render the dispute one which can only be  dealt with by an Industrial Tribunal to which  reference can be made by the appropriate, Government. Reference was however made to the decision of U.P.  Electric Supply  Co. v. R. K. Shukla(1) in aid of the contention  for the  appellants that if the dispute touches a matter in  the Third  Schedule the Labour Court will not have  jurisdiction to. deal with it.  In this case the State Electricity Board, U.P. took over the undertaking of the company from September 16,  1964  in exercise of power under sec. 6 of  the  Indian Electricity  Act,  1910  and under  the  provisions  of  the appellants’  licences.   As a result  thereof,  the  company ceased  to carry on the business of generation  and  distri- bution of electricity thereafter.  On September 16, 1964 the Board issued letters of appointment to the employees of  the appellant  in  the  posts  and  positions  which  they   had

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previously held.  According to the respondents they were not given credit for their past services with the company.   All the  workmen of the two undertakings were taken over in  the employment of the Board with effect from September 17, 1964. 443  workmen  employed in the  Allahabad  undertaking  filed applications before the Labour Court under s. 6-H(2) of  the U.P.   Industrial   Disputes  Act,  1947  for   payment   of retrenchment compensation and salary in lieu of notice.  The orders   for  payment  of  retrenchment  compensation   were resisted  by the company inter alia on the ground  that  the workmen were )not in fact retrenched and in any event  since they were admitted to the service of the Board on terms  not less  favorable than those enjoyed before, the  company  was under no liability to pay retrenchment compensation and  the Labour  Court  was incompetent to entertain and  decide  the applications  for awarding such compensation.  On the  above facts the Court in the appeal by special leave observed "the Company had expressly raised a contention that they had  not retrenched the workmen and that the workmen had  voluntarily abandoned  the Company’s service by seeking employment  with the  Board  even  before the Company  closed  its  working." Reliance  was  however  placed on certain  passages  in  the judgment at p. 513 and at p. 517 which according to  counsel for  the  appellants went to show that when  the  factum  of retrenchment  is  questioned, there is a  dispute  which  is ’exclusively   within  the  competence  of  the   Industrial Tribunal.  These observation cannot be considered binding on us as all the aspects were not placed before the Court then. Reference was also made to the case of Ramakrishna  Ramanath v.   Presiding   Officer,  Nagpur(2).   In  that  case   the appellant bad (1) [1970] 1 S-C.R. 507. 7-L643 Sup.  CI/72 (2) (1970) 2 L.L.J. 306. 590 issued  a notice in writing on the 1st July  1958  following the  issue  of a notification by the  Government  of  Bombay under  S. 5 (2) read with s. 5(1) of the Minimum Wages  Act, 1948  to  the effect that it had been forced  to  close  its factory  as from the 1st of July 1958 by the action  of  the Bombay Government in issuing the said notification  inasmuch as  minimum  rates of wages made payable as from  1st  July, 1958 were so excessive and unworkable that it was impossible for any employer to give effect to them and the notification had   made   the  working  of  the  business   a   financial impossibility.   The  workers were also  informed  that  the closure  of  the  business would continue  as  long  as  the notification dated 11th June, 1958 continued in force.   The Government  of Bombay withdrew the notification  after  some time  and  the appellants started to work the  factory  from 10th  August,  1958 taking in all employees who  were  there before 1st July.  The respondent No. 2 put in an application before  the Presiding, Officer, Labour Court Nagpur  on  5th November,   1963   claiming  Rs.  334.80   on   account   of retrenchment  compensation  and one month’s pay in  lieu  of notice.   The appellant put in its written statement,  inter alia,  contending  that  the  said  respondent  was  not  an employee  but an independent contractor and that  there  had been no closure of the business to attract s.     25-FFF  of the  Act  and  that in any event the dispute  could  not  be referred to a Labour Court.  In the appeal by special  leave to  this  Court it was contended, inter alia, (a)  that  the dispute  did not fall within the jurisdiction of the  Labour Court  but within that of an Industrial Tribunal,  (b)  that there was really,-no closure of the appellant’s business but

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only  a  lock  out  or a  temporary  stoppage  of  work  not attracting the operation of s. 25-FFF and (c) that in  order that the respondent could claim. the benefit of 25-F it  was obligatory  on her to show that she had worked for 240  days in each year of service for which the claim was made.   This Court found that the appellant had not taken the plea in its written  statement and that there had been a lay-off-  or  a lock-out and that it had only submitted that the closure  in accordance with the notice did not fall within the scope  of s.  25-FFF  of  the Act.  By issues 6 and  7  the  appellant raised  questions as to whether the closure had resulted  in the  retrenchment of the applicant and whether  the  closure was  beyond  the control of the employer.   No  dispute  was raised about the factum of closure.  Strangely enough it was urged  before  this Court that "there could  be  no  closure because   the  appellant  was  ,merely  protesting   against irresponsible  action  of the Government action and  had  no intention  to  close the business  permanently."  The  Court found that the question of lock-out was not mooted when  the issues  were settled nor had any plea been taken that  there had been a temporary cessation of work under Standing  Order No.  11.  In our view, the observations in this case do  not help the appellants before us.  591 In Sawatram Mills v. Baliram(1) the claim of the workmen for lay-off  during  a certain period before the  Second  Labour Court Bombay was resisted inter alia on the ground that  the said  court  had no jurisdiction as the dispute fell  to  be tried   under  the  C.P.  and  Berar   Industrial   Disputes (Settlement) Act, 1947, and, secondly, the application under s. 33-C was incompetent because it was not a claim for money due and calculations had to be made for ascertaining the sum due.   On a construction of the sections of  the  industrial Disputes Act this Court held that :               "Compensation   for  lay-off  could  only   be               determined under Chapter V-A of the Industrial               Disputes  Act  and the workmen  were  entitled               under  s.  3 3 C (1) to go before  the  Second               Labour Court to realise moneys due from  their               employers under Chapter V-A." The Court also negatived the contention that the  Industrial Disputes Act did not apply but the C.P. and Berar Industrial Disputes  (Settlement)  Act  did as the State  Act  made  no mention of lay-,off or compensation for lay-off.  The  other argument  was  rejected  following  the  judgment  in   Kays Construction Co. (P) Ltd. v. State of U.P. & ors. In substance the point urged by the appellants was that if a claim  is  made on the basis of a lay-off and  the  employer contends  that there was no lay-off but closure, it  is  not open to a labour court to entertain an application under  s. 33-C(2).   The more so it was stated, when the  dispute  was not  between  a  solitary workman on the one  hand  and  the employer  on  the other but a whole body of  workmen  ranged against   their  employer  who  was  faced   with   numerous application-,  before  the Labour Court for  computation  of benefit  in terms of money.  As has been said  already,  the Labour Court must go into the matter and come to a  decision as  to whether there was really a closure or a lay-off.   If it  took  the  view that there was  a  lay-off  without  any closure  of  the  business it would  be  acting  within  its jurisdiction’  if  it awarded compensation in terms  of  the provisions of Chapter V-A.  In our opinion the High  Court’s conclusion that               "In  fact  the business of  this  Company  was               continuing.  They in fact continued to  employ

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             several employees. their notices say that some               portions of the mills would continue to work" was unexceptionable.  The notices which we have referred  to can  only lead to the above conclusion.  The Labour  Court’s jurisdiction could not be ousted by a mere plea denying  the workman’s claim to the computation of ,lie benefit in  terms of money: the (1) [1966] I S.C.R, 764. (2) [1965] 2 S.C.R. 276. 592 Labour  Court  had  to go into the  question  and  determine whether,  on  the  facts, it had jurisdiction  to  make  the computation.  It could not however give itself  jurisdiction by a wrong decision on the jurisdiction plea. Appearing for the appellant in Civil Appeal No. 2136/66  Mr. Pai  contended  that  his  clients’  liability  would   only commence after the 1st October, 1960 when it started to  run the mill.  This point had not been canvassed before the High Court and consequently we cannot entertain it. In the second case Mr. Gupte argued that although his client did not raise the question of liability before, there was no question  of  any  concession and he should  be  allowed  to contest  his  liability  on the  basis  of  the  application preferred  for urging additional grounds before this  Court. As  this  point  was  not urged  in  the  court  below  this application must be refused. The last point urged was that in view of Standing Orders  19 and 21 the quantum of compensation had to be scaled down  or measured  in  terms of the Standing Order  19  the  employer could,  in  the event of fire, breakdown of  machinery  etc. stop  any machine or machines or department  or  departments wholly  or  partially  or  the  whole  or  a  part  of   the establishment  for  any period, without notice  and  without compensation  in lieu of notice.  Under Standing  Order  21, any operative played off under Standing Order 19 was not  to be  considered as dismissed from service but as  temporarily unemployed and was not to be entitled to wages’ during  such unemployment  except  to the extent  mentioned  in  Standing Order  No.  19.   The High Court  rightly  turned  down  the contention  in  view of S. 25-J of the Act under  which  the provisions of Chapter V-A are to have effect notwithstanding anything  inconsistent therewith contained in any other  law including   Standing  Orders  made  under   the   Industrial Employment (Standing Orders) Act, 1946. These  appeals  were originally heard by a  Bench  of  five, Judges including S. C. Roy, J. who expired a few days  back. The  above judgment was concurred in by our late  colleague. We  however gave a further hearing to the parties  at  which nothing  was addressed to us to make us change  our  opinion already formed. In  the  result,  the appeals fail and  are  dismissed  with costs. One set of hearing fee. S.C. Appeals dismissed. 593